From the Desk of the Racial Equity Commission (REC)
In Our Own Words: Interviews from OCHD StaffAs many of you know, the Racial Equity Commission is working to ensure that racial equity is an active agent throughout all organizational processes. In order to do that, we’ll be taking many approaches to ensure that equity is normalized, operationalized, and organized with in our agency. This means that equity will hopefully begin to show up among individuals, among different racial and ethnic groups and within these groups, and in our institution.
This month we interviewed two staff members, Ana Salas and Mike DeFranco to learn more about their experiences growing up and how that shapes them today. Through our work in REC, we see how important it is to build relationships with co-workers. Listening is the beginning of any meaningful relationship. Listening is when each person makes sense of his or her actions and searches for
common space without denying the validity of the other's point of view. When people are heard and take the time to hear one another, the work has already begun.
We hope these interviews allow you to get to know Ana and Mike in new and meaningful ways and that you find commonality in their stories both within and across racial and ethnic groups. We asked Ana and Mike four questions. Below are their answers.
1.How racially diverse was your neighborhood growing up? What message(s) did you get about race from living there? Ana: I grew up in a very small family owned neighborhood that was quiet, rural, and white and one in which my family was the odd family out. My dad worked in farming and the family that owned the neighborhood hired him and offered him rental housing so that he could be close to the job. Eventually, the family offered to sell the land we lived on to my dad. Growing up I wasn’t aware of any messages about race at the time, because where and how we lived was the norm for me. We played with the kids in the neighborhood who were all white and they would come over to my house and ask questions wondering why we did this or that or wanting to try my Mom’s Mexican food. It felt like a calling out of all the things that we did that was different, but also felt normal because I did not have a comparison.
Mike: Not very. I grew up an hour west of Boston. It was predominantly white, very middle of the road, middle class. Messaging about race like we’re talking now, I would say not very much. We had this great thing at my house, kind of a roundtable. My parents had some very strong convictions and were also very progressive minded. They had both come from New York City. They had the lived experience of living in diverse neighborhoods. We didn’t have that. There were maybe a handful of African American families that I knew, that we were friends with that we were with in school. But the vast majority was a sea of white. The space that my parents created in the house, we were able to talk about lots of different things including political issues, some racial issues, and just asking a lot of questions. It was awesome because those weren’t mainstream conversations for me, at least at that time.
2.When was the first time you had a teacher of a different race? How often did this occur? When was the first time you had a teacher of the same race? How often did this occur? Ana: The first time I had a teacher of a different race was the first time I went to school; all my teachers were pretty much white. I really had to think back very hard about people of color teachers I’ve encountered. In high school, I remember having one Hispanic teacher that was only there for a year and taught Spanish and one black teacher that taught English. In college, both undergrad and graduate school, I remember having one Hispanic teacher for Latin American studies and two black teachers that taught elective classes. What I remember is that when I did finally encountered other people of color teachers, I felt that they taught their classes with more passion and dedication to the topics and were more attentive to my needs.
Mike: Mrs. Wiggins, she was my second grade teacher and she was biracial. In college there were a few individuals from various backgrounds. It was sprinkled in but it wasn’t the norm. A lot of the professors and the teachers even in high school where from that general area, it was pretty white.
3.When/how did you first realize that races were treated differently in society? Who helped you make sense of that difference in treatment, and how did they do so? Ana: Growing up you kind of know there’s a difference, but you don’t really SEE if because you’re used to the way it is. You begin to just think this is how life is. I didn’t really begin to see that there is actually a difference is how people of different races are treated until I started school at UNC Chapel Hill. I encountered people who told me that the only reason I got in to UNC was because I was Hispanic and the school was just trying to meet a quota. I remember thinking to myself ‘why aren’t you saying that to other people because I know I worked by butt off to get here’. It wasn’t until I joined the Carolina Hispanic Association (CHA) that I knew I wasn’t the only one facing these accusations and there were other people on campus with similar experiences. The CHA also partnered with other minority groups on campus for various things and honestly it was one of the best times of my life. My whole life growing up I lived in a majority white neighborhood and I was in Honors and AP courses in school and the majority of the students in those classes were white and they only brought their perspectives with them to class. I didn’t even realize I was missing something in my life until I was shown it and experienced it in CHA and when we bonded with other minority groups on campus. It was amazing! Just being around CHA and other people of color I realized I wasn’t alone and that the treatment of different races is actually a thing, it’s real. I wish I had taken more Latin American studies to learn more about my own people because there’s so much that I never knew and still don’t know. The Racial Equity Institute was also significant in that it helped me to actually put what I had been feeling my whole life, even when I didn’t know what feelings, into words that I can understand and that I know to be true. REI validated and connected me to my feelings in such a powerful way.
Mike: I would say probably one of the biggest things for me was living outside the country, living abroad and being a foreigner is a wonderful way to readjust your lens. So the Peace Corps for me was the first time I was a minority in this area in southeastern Guatemala. It was very different than being a minority in the US but nonetheless, it was an amazing experience to give me a different lens to look at the world through.
Some of my friends were enlightened at a much earlier age that I ever was. They helped me see structural issues. And I think, damn, why didn’t I think on that same level in high school? And even now, I’ll go to training and it’s fascinating and a little bit frustrating to be constantly surprising yourself that you might not necessarily be aware. That something that I would never ever experience, like walking into a store to pick up something and then you hear a friend who is a person of color who says I’ve been walking into stores like that and I’ve felt the eyes on me, the camera, I’ve made notice of that. That I find frustrating because I never experience that and the way our society is set up, I never will. Awareness is our biggest thing, the biggest messaging piece; how do you get more and more people to acknowledge and to become more aware and open up the channels of conversation if we’re ever going to make things more equitable.
4.When did you first work in a community that was racially different from the one you grew up in? Ana: I’ve always worked in public service type of job in which we’ve had client bases that are different races and ethnicities. But working here at OCHD, I feel like I’ve worked with more clients and had more co-workers that are people of color that feel like I do and have the same ideals that I do than any other place I’ve worked in. Even though there isn’t many Hispanic staff, OCHD is the one that has the most people of color in any setting that I’ve been in even though there still isn’t a huge number of people of color staff here.
Mike: Working in emergency trauma, from a medicine standpoint, there were so many individuals that came into ER, people of color who had a previous diagnosis of hypertension, Type ll Diabetes; two of the most preventable illnesses if you have access to care, medications, follow-up, and reduced stress. To really start to see that play out, what seemed like half the population for all of these things because they don’t have access to care, it further reinforced in me to do something from the preventive health standpoint. It was enlightening to me to see individuals from different walks of life that were having different outcomes simply because they didn’t have resources. And you take it a step further—well why didn’t they have it? Why are all of these individuals underprivileged and why are all of these individuals coming from a similar cohort? This is what motivated me to work in public health.
Upcoming TrainingsREC encourages all staff to attend REI trainings (REI Phase l & ll, Latinx Challenge Workshops, Groundwaters, etc.) more than once in order to begin to form a common language and analysis lens among us all. Once trained, we encourage staff participation in the joint and affinity caucusing groups. For more training opportunities please visit
https://www.oaralliance.org/ and
https://www.racialequityinstitute.org/.
Racial Equity Institute Phase l Burlington – Friday & Saturday, May 3
rd & 4
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Durham – Saturday & Sunday, May 4
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Greensboro – Monday & Tuesday, May 13
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Durham – Monday & Tuesday, May 20
th & 21
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Alumni ONLYRaleigh – Friday & Saturday, June 7
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Durham – Thursday & Friday, June 20
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Alumni ONLYRacial Equity Institute Phase llDurham – Thursday & Friday, June 13
th & 14
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474 CLAS Standards Advancing Health Equity Agreement Addendum: Required Trainings BelowUnderstanding the Social Determinants of Health – May 24
th – Whitted BOCC Room – To register click
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Webinars, Conferences, WorkshopsMay 15
th – Self-Care for the Public Health Professionals - Please see Rebecca Crawford for details
Community EventsMay 21
st – Campaign for Racial Equity Speaker Series – Chapel Hill Public Library @ 6:30 pm
Learning CommunityBook Club: See April Richard or Juliet Sheridan for more informationJoint Caucus: May 8
th 12 pm – Whitted Classroom – open to any staff who have gone through Racial Equity training. See Juliet Sheridan or April Richard for more information.